
Location:
Arup, Level 6/151 Clarence St, Sydney NSW
Date:
31 MARCH
Time:
5-7.30 PM

The Big Debate Topic

The National Construction Code and green rating tools are brilliant for sustainability and climate aligned buildings. True or False?

What to Expect

It’s a tug of war: greener more sustainable outcomes versus simplicity of use, versus the housing crisis and economic pressures.
Whether it’s the National Construction Code or other rating tools, the pressure for reform is never ending. But now it’s intense.
There’s confusion and a truckload of discontent, but mostly in quiet chit chat without the scientific evidence. Whether it’s the NCC or the raft of other green building codes in the market, mandatory or voluntary.

How it’ll work

Let’s bring the experts into the room, take a pulse of how the audience feels now, listen to the structured debate.
Let’s have a generous QandA session.
Vote again.
Then hang up our mics, have a drink, a chat, and plan some solutions.
TFE Members will have access to the full transcript
Otherwise you’ll need to attend in person or online

Meet the Debaters


Maria Atkinson
Director
Atkinson Consultancy
About Maria
A scientist turned global sustainability leader, Maria is NSW Net Zero Commissioner, Venture Partner with Nirman Ventures, and a Member of the Order of Australia for pioneering sustainable building development. She serves on the Technical Working Group for IEEE 3469 – the international standard for environmental liability accounting in systems engineering. Maria brings rare authority and practical insight to every stage she steps onto, speaking at the frontier of policy, investment, and innovation, and actively shaping it.

Simon Croft
Chief Executive – Industry & Policy
HIA
About Simon
Simon is responsible for overseeing HIA’s extensive involvement in relevant building policy matters cutting across building codes and Australian Standards, economics, planning,
environmental and sustainability, workplace relation and compliance, industry skills and small business.
Simon is HIA’s representative on a number Commonwealth and State peak building advisory boards and committees and also sits on a number of industry bodies Boards.
Simon has oversight for HIA responses to governments on relevant building policy issues that affect residential building work and building practitioners, particularly on issues such as energy efficiency regulations, accessibility, building products and building certification
reviews.
Simon previously worked for the Australian Building Codes Board and has over 25 years’ experience working in the building and construction industry in a number of roles. Simon has a broad range of building and construction qualifications in fields of building, building surveying, project management and training and is a qualified carpenter.

Adrian Piani
Chief Executive
Australian Building Codes Board
About Adrian
Adrian brings 27 years of public and private sector experience working across the built and natural environments, including as ACT Chief Engineer. In that role, Adrian provided the ACT Government with strategic advice on infrastructure and led the delivery of a number of significant infrastructure projects. Most recently, Adrian led GHD’s federal government portfolio where he was responsible for engagement across a range of sectors including property, water, environment and transport.

Alison Scotland
Chief Executive Officer
Australian Sustainable Built Environment Council
About Alison
Alison Scotland is the Chief Executive Officer of the Australian Sustainable Built Environment Council (ASBEC), a national forum of peak bodies in the Australian built environment, focused on achieving sustainable, productive, and resilient buildings, infrastructure, communities, and cities. She drives a powerful collaboration agenda with industry, government and not-for-profit leaders to develop national policy and technical solutions that enhance the built environment.

Philip Thalis
Director
Hill Thalis Architecture + Urban Projects
About Philip
Philip Thalis is a founding principal of Hill Thalis Architecture + Urban Projects.
Philip actively promotes the culture of architecture and city making beyond the profession, combining practice with public lectures, teaching, research, and architectural criticism. Since 2007 he has been a Professor of Practice in Architecture at UNSW and has lectured extensively at many Australian universities, with a particular research focus on the history of Sydney’s architecture and urban housing, and the architecture of the city more broadly. His book Public Sydney; Drawing the City (co-authored with Peter John Cantrill) examined successive transformation of the city’s public places and major public buildings.
From 2016 to 2021, Philip served as a Councillor of the City of Sydney as part of the Clover Moore Independent Team. During this period he advanced a progressive agenda for public transport, cycling and pedestrian amenity in the city, and he promoted public and affordable housing. With Councillor Jess Scully, he launched the City’s Alternative Affordable Housing Demonstration project. As a member of the Central Sydney Planning Committee, he advocated strongly for design quality in significant developments and strategic policies. He continues to represent the Lord Mayor of Sydney on the Anzac Memorial Trust.
Professional appointments include AIA representative on the Heritage Council of NSW, joining the Urban Design Advisory Council, and serving for nine years as Trustee of the Historic Houses Trust of NSW. He has been recognised by his colleagues in the Institute of Architects, receiving the AIA President’s award (jointly with Peter John Cantrill) in 2009, and his elevation to a Life Fellow of the Institute in 2019.
Philip has supported community campaigns to protect the equity, diversity and architecture of the city, working with groups to save the Walsh Bay and Woolloomooloo wharves and to oppose the sale of the Bridge Street sandstone grouping, the eviction of public housing tenants and sale of public housing in Millers Point, and the failings of the development-led approach to city making more generally. He contributes to public debate through interviews on Sydney radio, written contributions to local news media, and also engages with a diverse audience on social media to promote architecture and the public interest in Sydney.

Ché Wall
Director
Flux Consultants
About Ché
Ché Wall is an internationally recognised leader in sustainability within the built environment and an advocate for the sustainable development of our cities and communities. Through his consultancy work, he has played a crucial role in delivering some of Australia’s most iconic and transformative green buildings, public spaces, and precincts. His extensive background encompasses professional practice, business leadership, not-for-profit organisations, and sustainability policy development, providing a unique blend of technical expertise, commercial insight, and practical delivery experience.
Ché is a member of the City of Sydney Design Advisory Panel and the NSW State Design Review Panel. He serves as the lead expert for buildings with the Climate Bond Initiative in London and was the lead author of the Climate Bond Standard’s building sector criteria, which has been used to certify Climate Bonds globally, establishing the benchmarks for climate-aligned institutional investment.
Ché has received numerous accolades, including the Prime Minister’s Environmentalist of the Year from the Banksia Foundation, the NSW RAIA President’s Award for Outstanding Contribution to the Architectural Profession, and recognition as one of the six most influential living engineers in the world by Architectural Record. He was also a co-founder of the Green Building Council of Australia and the Founding Chair of the World Green Building Council.
Ché is a director at Flux Consultants, an independent expert advisory practice and consulting business that provides sustainable design advice and delivery expertise on sustainable buildings, urban regeneration, green infrastructure projects, and related strategy development.

Caroline Pidcock
MC
About Caroline
Caroline Pidcock is an architect and advocate for regenerative design, renowned for her commitment to integrating biodiversity into the built environment. As Director of PIDCOCK, she has led innovative projects that prioritize ecological restoration and biophilic design. A spokesperson for Architects Declare Australia, Pidcock emphasizes the urgency of addressing climate change and biodiversity loss through sustainable architecture. Her leadership roles include Chair of 1 Million Women and involvement with various design review panels, reflecting her dedication to community and environmental advocacy. Recognized as a Life Fellow of the Australian Institute of Architects, Pidcock’s work exemplifies how thoughtful design can foster a harmonious relationship between urban development and the natural world.

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